>> Yep. That's porn. Mild by many standards. > Not even close to porn > You must be kidding.. I can't see why this should be porno. Far > from. At > least not more then a classical nude painting or is that porno to? See my recent lonnnng post. This site has the same core intention of the hardest core heterosexual porn sites. The difference is one of scale, not of intention. There are no doubt sites where the intention level is lower. This site definitely aims to sexually provoke and stimulate and generate male lust. Many classical nude paintings also had the same intent fwiw. Whether this is good, bad or interesting is orthogonal to this. The message from this site is far far more subtle than for many porn sites. But for people at the right place on the curve it will adequately satiate the pleasure centre for the moment. The time will come, *possibly* has come for those who respond as above, when what would at one stage have been either exciting or even repulsive, becomes inadequate to produce a requisite level of excitement. Note that I'm NOT making moral comment on the merits of running up or not running up this stimulus - response curve. Just noting that all forms of sexual stimulation, especially for men, is a classic pleasure centre activator and provision of regular stimulus always leads to desensitisation with the the desire to maintain pleasure levels and the attendant need for higher dose levels to achieve the same results. And you thought that it was just that you were getting old :-) Nobody has used the word "erotica". Erotica is pornography by another name. Ignoring, for a moment, any concept of whether pornography is good or bad or whatever makes it far easier to decide what constitutes pornography. Once decided you can turn back on the morality channel and hang on tight. Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist