At 02.56 2005.04.10 +1000, you wrote: >>And, knowing about that, I approached the Microchip speakers during a break >>in the 18F class at the Masters Conference in July 2003. When I asked about >>the status of the investigation and resolution of this problem, they all >>claimed to have no idea what I was talking about. >> >>I had avoided asking the question in front of the whole class so that they >>might be more inclined to discuss the issue candidly with me, but even when >>it was just several M'chip guys and myself they had nothing to say about it. >> >>As I recall, the first errata admitting the problem and announcing the >>availability of fixed silicon came out in November 2003 -- less than four >>months after that "discussion." >> >>Several months later I contacted Microchip to find out what the date codes >>were for the new silicon so I could safely order some through a distributor >>for my inventory. The "answers" were very evasive and no date codes were >>provided. "Just work through a M'chip rep" or something like that. >> >>A rather dark chapter in Microchip's history, IMHO. >> >>-Randy >>http://www.glitchbuster.com > >Interesting post Randy, > >Guess who I bought some of my bugged parts from? Now who >would foot the bill if I wanted to return them? These parts have >been though how many hands? This just gets messy. > >I noticed that you do not sell them anymore. I actually wanted to >buy some B4 revisions so I went to your web site to order them. >I simply was going to foot the loss myself. It is trivial compared >to the losses caused with the bugged 18F252s and 18F8720s Oh no.. Murphy law to the extreme. The only 18F chips I've ever bought are: PIC18F1320 PIC18F252 PIC18F452 PIC18F8720 So now it's 3 out of 4 of "my" chips that are possibly buggy. What a luck that I have! Please, could anybody enter in detail about what does afflict the 8720? This will be my biggest pain.. I'm sure, also because it's the only one of the 3 that I cannot replace, being TQFP instead of the friendly DIP.. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist