My best trick was when my folks were still driving an old Buick -- I ran a jumper wire from one of the the high beam headlight bulbs to the horn. Dad got the last laugh, though. He went to the local mechanic and had a fake bill written up. A crushing blow to a nearly broke teenager.. Aaron -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist