On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, Bob Blick wrote: > Peter writes: > >> A 38cm/s studio tape in brand new condition with a near perfect >> recording will sound bad to most people when compared to a cd, even with >> dbx and other noise canceling schemes. There are some valuable >> recordings (like early Beatles tracks) which sound really bad on modern >> cd because the original tapes were not good enough, for example. > > I disagree. > > Most people can't tell the difference between an mp3 and a CD. At what data rate ? A mp3 needs to be beyond 256kBps to sound reasonable. If you compress 44.1kHz (=705.6kBps) cd quality audio 2:1 (easy) using something lossless you get something like 350kBps lossless cd quality data. Thus if a 256kBps mp3 does sound as good as a cd then the size gain from using mp3 is only 350/256 ~= 36%. And a 256kBps mp3 does *not* sound like a cd, at least not to me, although I have to listen carefully to a part I know well to discern them. And there are lossless sound compression algorythms that go way beyond 2:1. Oh, and usually the non-mp3 compressors (that I know of) require a peanut-sized integer dsp as opposed to the pentium-class processing required to do mp3 decompression in real time. > Digital is not necessarily better than analog. 44100 samples per second > with 20000 Hz bandwidth is a serious compromise. I agree. But most people can't hear much beyond 12kHz anyway. On the other hand, munging the available information using mp3 in the upper midrange where it matters most for sound coloration is not such a good idea either imho. Good that most people don't care. > DBX on analog tape doesn't make the recording quality better. It makes it > worse. It only reduces the noise. Very few major albums were recorded with > noise reduction. Good engineering practice, noise gates, and fast board > work are used instead. I agree, but someone must have botched the originals or used poor quality materials (or the tapes were not stored properly). Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist