>> Porn, theft, spam. None of this need have much visible effect on most users who wish to avoid it. ISP spam filtering is getting rather good, as are personal antispam products. Theft is up to the individual - as long as you don't allow an open relay through your system. Porn, should one wish to avoid it, can be avoided far far more successfully than almost anyone seems to claim. I choose not to go near porn sites (I'm a typical male and know that not starting is the only sure defence against all addictive things that target the pleasure centre strongly)(And the instruction manual says to flee from it, which seems to be extremely good advice). I am as active a pseudo random surfer as most (as people may have noticed), but I have probably accidentally stumbled on porn sites less than a dozen times in about 13 years on the internet. On the latest occasion I had a young woman with me who I was attempting to show something quite different and it was most embarrassing. I was using an anonymous proxy site to look back into my own server and probably got something cached that is more normal for that sort of service. I can't recall the last time it happened before that. My wife would probably claim that this was a result of failing memory :-). The invisible effect of these resource consumers is to greatly increase the cost of implementing the net. Hopefully the pay per view people end up contributing their unfair share to my free surfing. Russell McMahon ______________________________________________________________________ " ... whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable - if anything is excellent or praiseworthy - think about such things. " Philippians 4:8 -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist