Another thing... Vic Fraenckel wrote : > I no longer have access to the programmer > and have build a Wisp628.... Now, have you verified that the Wisp628 is working correctly ? I'd recomend that you verify the Wisp628 in some simple curcuit (see : http://www.voti.nl/blink/index.html) before using it on your full design PCB. Jan-Erik. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist