At 11:00 PM 3/31/2005 -0600, you wrote: >I'm trying to build a little network of microcontrollers that can report >their status to a central server, in a forest. We want to make the various >flag/objective stations when we play paintball automatized, and I'm >looking for some ideas/recommendations. The uC need to report something >simple (eg, which sides owns that station), and maybe a timer. However, it >would be great to further expand it to use rfid/bluetooth technology to >record when a player is actually 'holding' the station. It would transmit >this data to a central server that would display the whole results. > >Any ideas for bluetooth/rfid/'presence' signalling? > >Even more importantly, should I try to use little rf transmitters, and do >it myself, or woiuld it be better to use 802.11 wireless types? The >picotux (recently posted, >http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8386088053.html) looks great: I could >just use tcp/ip for reports and command line scripts, since they run >linux. But they are 100 euros a pop. I'm also concerned about how much >power consumption I should expect from these things, as well as what range >would I get in forests? I faced a similar problem like this last year with some PIR monitors in a forest. We first tried using 802.11 and found that if we had a clear line of sight between the sender and receiver that it worked fine out to about 200 yards. Of course, we could only get a clear line of sight with 2 of the senders. Without a clear line of sight, we could only get about 100 feet of reception amongst softwood pines trees, and around 50 feet of reception amongst hardwood hickory trees. The solution we used was to buy a bunch of the 2-mile range hand held radios and hack them apart. We set them all to the same frequency, replaced the send button with a transistor to act as a switch, and replaced the microphone with a simple beeping circuit run from a pic. Once the PIR was activated, the PIC would broadcast its beeps 5 times. (The beeps just identified which monitor it was - 9 beeps for monitor #9). On the receiver end, we had another hacked hand held radio with a PIC that would count the number of beeps (voltage pulses) that came in and dump it into a computer serial port. A simple basic program on the computer then logged the time and receiver number. I think we pretty much got all of the basic circuits from a model rocket telemetry web page. There is one problem with the system though. If two of the monitors activated at the same time then we would get the wrong the sensor logged. (If sensor 1 and sensor 2 activated at the same time, then we would get 3 beeps and the computer would log sensor 3). Luckily that only happened a couple of times and when we looked at the data it was obvious that something had messed up. Good luck _____________________________________________________________ Cris Wilson Information Resource Consultant College of Architecture, Arts, and Humanities Clemson University cris@clemson.edu To report problems email: aah_computers@clemson.edu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist