By the way, I hear that all those parts which have 8MHz INTOSC are based on 0.4um technology so most of the 18F parts are based on 0.4um technology except those without EEPROM (0.35um). -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist