>
>Disparate OPINION is what I am seeking, and the legal test, here at least, 
>seems to be reasonableness. I know how hard I would consider stopping in a 
>a typical orange light scenario. Whether my measure of "reasonable" and 
>the law's coincide is yet to be seen. The standard used by the official 
>book that everyone here uses to design intersections is less rigorous than 
>what I would have applied.

I assume this is what I'm used to as a yellow, the warning that the light 
is about to go red?
I would not expect to have to brake hard, and I would expect that the 
timing would be adjusted according to the speed limit. Braking hard to 
avoid running a red, could cause a rear end collision, or damage/injury in 
my vehicle.  Granted, I'll do what I have to do, but traffic signals 
shouldn't force me into this.

When the light goes yellow, there should be plenty of time to react to it, 
and to slow down in a reasonable manner.  Remember, the yellow is there to 
HELP you!


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