Agreed. The series resistor softens the wavefront, reducing the radiation effects to the nearby wiring. The PIC has a Schmitt-triggered input in program mode, so the R won't prevent proper operation even when it is larger. An R of 100 ohms should be right. The RJ12 of the ICD2 is a problem, as the wires are bundled too tightly. --Bob Wouter van Ooijen wrote: >>If the programmer's output clock line was low impedance, >>this wouldn't >>happen, right? >> >> > >The effect is caused by the rise time of the 'source' line, combine with >the high impedance (only at the target side?) of the other line. A >series resistor softens the rise time, and damps ringing. A capacitor >softens the riste time, and (when placed at the target) provides a >low-impedance. > >A low impedance of the clock output driver can only worsen the effect. > >Wouter van Ooijen > >-- ------------------------------------------- >Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl >consultancy, development, PICmicro products >docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu > > > > -- Note: To protect our network, attachments must be sent to attach@engineer.cotse.net . 1-866-263-5745 USA/Canada http://beam.to/azengineer -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist