> If the programmer's output clock line was low impedance, > this wouldn't > happen, right? The effect is caused by the rise time of the 'source' line, combine with the high impedance (only at the target side?) of the other line. A series resistor softens the rise time, and damps ringing. A capacitor softens the riste time, and (when placed at the target) provides a low-impedance. A low impedance of the clock output driver can only worsen the effect. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist