Presently, we are using Sanmina-SCI and have pretty good sucess with them. --- PicDude wrote: > Alan, > > Very informative. Thanks. > > Care to pass on any recommendations for CM's? > > Cheers, > -Neil. > > > > On Tuesday 22 March 2005 08:09 am, alan smith > scribbled: > > We have used CM's that are very small shops to the > > very large. IN all cases, the first boards thru, > > complex or not, require you to hold thier hands in > > order to make sure it gets done right. Once they > have > > a process down, its usually pretty much...build me > 100 > > of these units. > > > > Small CM's will sub the board out, even get them > from > > overseas if qty is enough or build themselves (if > they > > are a large CM that is...one of ours is) > > > > Testing. If you want them to test, then its going > to > > be a cost adder. They typically will want the > test > > setup (we provide the test jig) and depending on > the > > design, rework can sometimes be easier at the CM > > facility (large BGA's are usually not for the > faint of > > heart). If you can deal with rework yourself for > > failed boards then the cost burdon comes back to > you. > > > > Parts - jelly bean parts (normal caps and > resistors > > that is) they typically bought in reels by the > > thousands and can reduce costs. Special parts, > > modules, chips, etc are usually (unless HUGE qty) > not > > purchased any cheaper than what you can but they > have > > full control over the buying process. To > elaborate, > > if you have a part, its better to negotiate the > price > > with the vendor yourself then make sure that the > CM > > will buy it at that price. We have seen where a > part > > has been nogotiated by a CM customer for lets say > > $2ea, but our price is $2.25 for the same part. > Why? > > Even tho the CM is using thousands of this part, > the > > price was negotiated for the other client, not us. > > That was a surprise actually. > > > > Best advice? If you can use a local CM its better > > since you will have issues on first runs and also > > during larger runs. Visit the line, look at some > of > > the work they are doing, ask permission to talk to > > other customers, get a good feel of the process. > If > > they refuse to allow you to see the line, > etc....might > > think twice about using them (what are they > hiding). > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist