> regulation of excellent xformers can be 10% or less and with very > cheap wall warts it can be 30% or worse. A cheap 6.3V @ 100mA > xformer may deliver 6.3V + 30% = 8.2V with no load That's something you need to be aware of when using wallwarts/ plug-packs/battery eliminators. A neighbour of mine was caught out badly when he used a higher amp 12V in an alarm system. The circuitry was designed to load the original p-p down to 12V. When he swapped that p-p for another, the circuit loading had virtually no effect and the system saw 18V rather than 12V. Not a forgiving design, and it was his fault, but still ......... You have to assume that most people do not have a DMM and wouldn't know or care how a transformer works. They see the "12V" and that's what they were looking for I recently picked up a load of plug-packs (thank you Russell) that are unregulated and nominally 12V @ 150mA. Open circuit they measure 19.2V or +60% !!!!! That's OK, I knew that beforehand and have the circuit designed for them. There's a label on the blister pack (but not on the p-p itself unfortunately) stating "WARNING - UNREGULATED. Output voltage will be higher if your appliance draws less than the rated current" Dangerous if you don't know the implications of that - especially as the warning is not on the item but rather on the packaging, which would typically be in the bin pretty smartly - and I'll be including more specific information in the product's manual as well as moving the warning sticker to the p-p -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist