Bob Blick wrote: > Here in California we have Tall, Grande, and Venti. > Tall, of course, is the smallest. Yeah, that's true anywhere there's a Starbucks... Which is like saying it's true throughout the universe, I guess. As with the names for USB speeds, there's history behind the Starbucks coffeecup-size names: In the beginning, there were two sizes: Short and Tall. When they introduced the larger 16-ounce cup, it was called Grande. The progression -- Short, Tall, Grande -- wasn't hard to understand, but then it got a little confusing when they dropped the Short size and were left with only Tall and Grande (rather like USB's Full-speed and High-speed). In order to avoid further confusion when they introduced the even larger 20-ounce cup, they decided not to use another comparative name and instead just called it Venti (Italian for "twenty"). Which makes sense, except that in order to compensate for the volume of ice in cold drinks, the COLD version of the Venti cup is 24 ounces. -Andy === Andrew Warren - aiw@cypress.com === Principal Design Engineer === Cypress Semiconductor Corporation === (but open to offers) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist