> Just my two cents.  I bet others feel a lot different!

Yeah: 16F630/676. IMHO the best bang for the buck, and IMHO the 16F630
should be the 'hobbyist-firts' successor to the 16x84. A simple chip,
and very cheap too, so it will not hurt soo much when you kill a few.

Wouter van Ooijen

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