On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 12:58 -0600, Mike Hord wrote: > Really? My wife and I have been considering a Mini (just cursorily), and > cars.com suggests it at around US$17k. The implication is that one can > likely be had for somewhat less than that if one were to shop harder > than that. > > That price compares favorably to, for example, the $17k price tag on a loaded > Dodge Neon (as of 5 years ago; I doubt it's gone down any). > > Doesn't compare well to the ridiculous cheapness of some of the new > Korean imports, though, or the true "bottom rung" cars from American > manufacturers (which used to be things like the Metro, but now may be > largely unfilled). Well I can't speak about your market, but where I'm from here's the breakdown: BASE Mini: $23,500 CDN For that price you could instead get: Base GM Chev Malibu: $22,375 CND Base Pontiac G6: $24,700 CND Base Honda Accord Sedan: $24,300 CND Base Toyota Camry Sedan: $24,990 CND Note that all these prices are MSRP, for most you'll be able to knock down things, except of course the Mini which is VERY difficult to get for anything other then MSRP, hence even though almost every other car I've listed has a slightly higher price, you can consider prices to be about the same. I've only collected a spattering, but as you can see, every other model I've listed is a FAR better car, bigger, more powerful, more useful then the Mini, yet they are the same price. Personally I'd classify the Mini as being in the same class as a Honda Civic, Acura EL or Toyota Corolla, yet those cars are THOUSANDS of dollars cheaper, even with some options, then a BASE Mini (and Mini prices can QUICKLY go insane, the Mini Cooper S Convertible is $36,500!). Now, I CAN see why people LIKE the Mini, and if it cost what I think it should cost (about $15,000) then I'd respect it. Of course, the Mini is selling, so I guess that right there should shut me up... For the record I feel the same way about the Volkswagon Beetle... Of course, this is all personal opinion. TTYL ----------------------------- Herbert's PIC Stuff: http://repatch.dyndns.org:8383/pic_stuff/ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist