----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan-Erik Soderholm" Subject: RE: [PIC] Need HELP with oscillator circuit problems > (An un-programmed or erased chip used the RC osc. That's good to know. I always use a homebrew programmer so there's never a problem programming a PIC And to tell the truth, I'm rarely tempted to "see how it works" in the circuit without a program! I would be surprised if it did anything besides nothing. --McD -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist