On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: > And does the documentation specificaly say that that programmer > should be able to program all those PICs ?? Yes and no. The programmer itself is almost, but not quite, as blindingly simple as you can get -- parallel port -> hex buffer -> PIC chip. So assuming that most PIC chips program with a 13V Vpp, 5V Vdd, and some fiddling with PGD and PGC, it's just a matter of software at that point. I wrote my own programming software based on the Microchip datasheets which runs under BSD. So if I did that correctly, it should be compatible with my chips. I also used PICALL for Windows as a test when the first didn't work for the 16F870. It's supposed to do that one at least, so there's probably something in the timing of the programming cycle (or something) which both my homebuilt (and admittedly naive) code, and the third-party (but now unsupported) program, are missing. > You can probably be (close to) 100% sure that there is nothing > wrong with our samples. That's my assumption as well, but I thought it was an odd coincidence that the parts which did and didn't work happened to be from separate sample shipments. So I thought it was at least worth asking. -- Steve Willoughby | "It is our choices... that show what we truly | are, far more than our abilities." | --Albus Dumbledore, in Harry Potter and the | Chamber of Secrets, by J. K. Rowling -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist