I'm deeply ashamed to admit that I use stripboard - the kind of thing that AoE would call "strictly bush-league" (whatever that means). Whereas I used to use an acre of stripboard and work it out as I went along, I now use a combination of TinyCAD for the schematic and then I import the netlist into VCAD which is a stripboard layout aid. There I a can mess about to my heart's content, shoehorning circuits into a tiny area - and they work 1st time too! John -----Original Message----- From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu]On Behalf Of Jake Anderson Sent: 07 March 2005 12:43 To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: RE: [EE] Wire wrapping insight needed! eagle takes about a day to "not suck" at it you probably wont do everything right but eh close enough one off projects I make I wire up on "strip board"? and solder. thing to watch on that is to make sure you have all the tracks cut you are meant to I place all the chips solder them in then mark the track cuts with a marker (remember you must cut the tracks down the centre of the IC, *that's* why its getting warm ;->, and that 20V bridge way off to the other side with the tracks running to your MSSP serial input pin wont help either) then wire it up and cut the tracks (adding cut track marks as I wire) projects wired up that way have flown in many of my hobby scale rockets (up to H class) and in 100G acceleration sounding rockets. > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu]On Behalf > Of Alan B. Pearce > Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 22:48 > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [EE] Wire wrapping insight needed! > > > >So what do you "ole guys" use for prototyping? Just solder everything? > > With modern PCB CAD packages such as Eagle, it is just as quick, > or probably > quicker, to lay out a PCB and send it off to get a prototype one > made. Less > errors, and if you do need to change the wiring, then it is easier to cut > the track and run a jumper wire. Jumper wires on PCB's is the best use for > wire wrap wire these days. > > Just wait until you need to dig into the rats nest of wires to > find the one > that you wired wrong. On a PCB CAD package if the wire is wrong, > then it is > shown wrong on the schematic. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist