On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Olin Lathrop wrote: > Mike Hawkshaw wrote: >> The real advantage of three phase is that it the most efficient way of >> transmitting power, taking into account the copper losses, and the cost >> of more conductors to go to more phases. > > The real point behind 3 phase power is that total power delivered is > constant and does not vary with the 60Hz or 50Hz power cycle. Three phases > is the minimum required for this to be true. Among other things, this means > that the torque on the generators at power plants is constant. This is very > important for such high power machines. This also means that 3 phase motors > draw a constant power and put out a constant torque. Afaik it takes two phases for that. Proof: instantaneous power for a sin, cos 2-phase system, at 90 degrees is: Pi = (U1*sin(wt)*I1*sin(wt)) + (U2*sin(wt+pi/2)*I2*sin(wt+pi/2)) with U1=U2 and I1=I2 this becomes: Pi = 2*U*I*(sin(wt)^2 +cos(wt)^2) = 2*U*I*1 I think that the real real reason why 3 phases are 'better' is the better use of copper and iron. For 2 phases one still needs 3 wires and one of them would have to be thicker. With 3 phases they can be equal. Also the torque of a 3-phase machine is more constant than a 2-phase machine's although I doubt that this applies to any sizeable generator, those having in the hundreds or even thousands of poles and phasing/equalizing gear downstream to prevent imbalance between the phase loads. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist