It seems to me that Olin's programmer are really good. Is this
a EasyProg or a ProProg? 

Hope someone will come out with a table for ICD2 (USB interface),
PicStart+, Promate II and Promate III. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Robertson [mailto:jimpl@newfoundelectronics.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:27 AM
> To: piclist@mit.edu
> Subject: [PIC:] prog time
> 
> 
> 
> >Roland Jollivet  Wrote:
> >I'm using ICProg and a AN589 programmer.
> >It takes 52s to program the 18F452 (all flash and data)
> >
> >So I'm wondering if that's reasonable.
> 
> 
> Some time ago this was posted on the piclist. Don't know to 
> the day when as 
> I just saved the meat of it as a text file. The date of this 
> post is 05/02 
> MM/YY
> 
> > > Olins programer:
> > >       PIC   Program time (sec)   Verify time (sec)
> > >   -------   ------------------   -----------------
> > >    12F629                 12.9                 2.8
> > >    16F628                 23.7                 5.0
> > >    16F877                 55.8                18.3
> > >    18F452                 36.3                18.3
> > >   18F1320                 18.0                 8.6
> >
> >Hah, some solid figures! Below are the figures for 
> Wisp628/XWisp on an
> >XP 2 GHz, via an USB->serial converter. Rob Hamerling will 
> probably be
> >able to provide figures that eliminate the XWisp and USB->serial
> >aspects.
> >
> >I just read the chip, saved the file (code,data,fuses, full range of
> >each) and timed the 'go' command for that file (= erase, 
> write, verify -
> >at one Vcc - Wisp628 is a prototype programmer).
> >
> >PIC        'go' time (seconds)
> >-------    ---
> >12F675      18
> >16F628      39
> >16F877     141
> >16F877A     67
> >18F452     135
> >18F1320     16
> >
> >Now can anyone create such figures for a bit-banged (parallel port or
> >serial port) programmer? And mybe time a PS+ too?
> >
> >Olin: comparing the figures your writing time for the 18F1320 seems
> >high.
> 
>
> 
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