At 08:31 PM 2/24/2005, Horacio J. Pe=F1a wrote: > > > The bit that amuses me about this is that NZ has been using Pins on= =20 > swipe cards in shops for something > > approaching 20 years. > > > > How can that be any less secure than using a pin at an ATM? > > > Because the PIN at ATMs is checked back with the bank, not from the=20 > card itself? > >At least here (Argentina) the PIN is checked with the bank. The reader >calls the bank and ask for authorization. I'm still under non-disclosure, but the terminal doesn't remember anythin= g=20 from the transaction, and you pin never appears with less than DES=20 encryption on it anywhere in the chain. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist