On Feb 23, 2005, at 4:46 PM, Roy J. Gromlich wrote: > So I don't see how the confusion could happen - how she was able > to buy gas on someone else's card without using a PIN. > You have your specific vendor credit cards, and you have your general purpose credit cards. The average "Shell" gas station will accept either a shell credit card OR a visa card, but ONLY the gas stations will accept the shell card, while the visa is good nearly everywhere. (there are also general purpose credit cards issued by gas companies. I believe I have "shell" mastercard that is issued by shell, suppored by mastercard, and good anywhere mastercard is accepted (but with special benefits at shell stations.) It's all silliness caused by the fact that it so profitable to lend people money... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist