From: "Herbert Graf" > For example: if you use an RJ11 connector you have to be prepared for > people to plug your device into a phone line (can your device handle 100 > + volts AC?) What I like about the RJ11 idea is: 1) small size 2) cable easily available (if not a direct one, then a standard serial cable with an RJ11-DB9 adapter What I don't like about the RJ11 for my application is: 1) Agreeing with you, the capability of plugging the device to non-intended sources, and no, I guess my device would explode if plugged to 100v ac :-) 2) Not too small size for my enjoyment 3) Somehow I don't think RJ11 has a "snug" fit. I think it is fragile and it will break with time, but that's only my impression. The device is a GPS receiver and I want to provide a PC communication link. One idea would be using what is already on the market, for example the Garmin eSeries cable, but I cannot find the female connector to include into my device. I have a voice recorder in my hands right now. It connects to the PC using a USB connection instead serial cable. On one end of the cable, there is a regular USB male connector, but on the other end, there is a very small (USB?) connector. That connector size would be perfect for my application. Can I use a USB miniature connector (4 pins?) in a custom cable to carry serial data? Is that a good idea? Another idea would be using another type of small connector (DIN-8?) and provide a custom cable, but I still don't know what are the costs involved with custom cables. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist