An interesting side story about this theft of cards... A few weeks ago, my mother-in-law was on line at the supermarket, and after paying she scooped up her receipt and debit card, dumped them in her purse and left. Later that day, she bought gas (pay at the pump). After filling and paying, she went to return her debit card to her wallet and realized that it wasn't her debit card. She returned the card to the bank (the cardholder's account was with her bank) and asked that it be returned, and that her account have the price of the gas she bought transferred to the other account with her apologies. The bank thanked her and deducted the money. The next day, the police interrogated her for two hours before finally charging her with identity theft. Her court date is next week. Attorney costs are now at $1500. Over $27 worth of gas, which they only know she spent because she returned the card and requested her account be debited. Mike H. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist