Dave VanHorn wrote: >> Well, the quality of his web pages, and the short leap from >> task description to possible application as a credit card skimmer >> didn't make me feel good either. > > You know of course, that your pin does not live on any of the three > tracks, right? Of course. But micro cameras have made it pretty easy to get a PIN from careless users. When was the last time you checked your ATM machine valence for unusual or non-standard coverings? Our national newsmagazine just ran a 1 hours show dedicated entirely to the tricks of the trade, to teach consumers what to be aware of. They showed how a group of well organized crooks outfitted an ATM in a busy Calgary location with a camera and faceplate card skimmer, in LESS THAN 30 seconds. http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1105142446966_16/?hub=WFive "In just two hours time, the gang got away with 35 customers' card information. In just a few days they had collected enough information to steal nearly $650,000." What really peeves me is that much more secure systems than mag stripe technology exists (e.g. smartcards), but the banking industry isn't YET loosing enough money to justify the upgrade. Maybe we need to refuse to use their systems until they upgrade them. And TELL THEM THIS! " Banking experts estimate it would cost the banking system in Canada approximately $500-million to produce the chip technology (smart cards) for the debit card system while debit card fraud costs a mere $44-million in 2003 in comparison. One might think the banks have concluded it's cheaper to pay off the bad guys than it is to help the good guys." It's only a matter of time before your area sees the same criminal activity, so please be aware of anything 'unusual' about your ATM. Robert -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist