On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Mike Hord wrote: > Such designs a frequently found on "free energy" websites, usually with > the "blades" designed as old propane tanks. > > Their efficiency is such that you would be better off using the solar energy > to grow food, eating it, and riding a stationary bike with the calories from > the digested food. They are a cute trick, though. Why are you saying that ? Remember the dipping bird trick that dips for half a day into a small vessel with 2 ounces of lukewarm water (the water cooling faster from heat loss to the environment than to the bird) ? Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist