> If i understand it corectly you go to the logon page for the router. > I think this may be caused by the remote administration of the > router being set to on and on port 80. I thought this may be the cause too - but remote admin is off. > Try switching it to off OR switching the port to a more suitable one > I believe 8080 is common. Thanks. I'll try. I imagine I can only do this on the internal side of the router as the external has to conform to whatever is sending me HTTP I want to "see" the server externally if possible to help combat Murphy. Years of experience suggests that if you don't see what someone else sees, or if the path you arrived at, then you are running a simulation - which may be indistinguishable from either magic or a rigged demo, depending on whether Murphy was last talking to Clark or Asimov. I have accessed it via a dial up link "just to see" and so far all is as I hoped. But I'd rather not have to do that if possible. It does, of course, give me a proper idea of what dial up users will experience. One use will be for church youth group files and many users will have dialup access. Thanks for the various comments so far. Router is a Dynalink RTA210 Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist