I can't say I know much about automated shifting systems, but the specs you give make me think about automotive starter solenoids. Take a look at smallblock Chevy starters. The starter engagement solenoid should produce what you need and I'd expect to be able to pick them up from a junk yard for a reasonably price. Though you might need to cut up the starter housing to build some sort of mounting. -Denny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin K" To: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:20 PM Subject: [EE] large force solenoid > Hi there everyone > I'm working on an electronic shifting system for a Formula SAE car > (motorcycle engine/tranny) > We want to implement shifting utilizing solenoids and (of course) we're > trying to do it on the cheap. What I need are solenoids that can travel > about an inch and provide a force of around 10 pounds for a duty cycle > of about 10%. I don't know where to look for such a thing, so I'm > wondering if anyone has any ideas as far as that goes. Our electrical > system is 12v. > > The other idea I was looking into was using a solenoid originally > designed for a lower force, but feeding it a much higher initial current > to get it moving faster, giving it more momentum for the portion of the > stroke that would require a stronger force. This is what I'm thinking so > far: > > 12v ------->D1>------------o X1 o-----))))solenoid coil))))-- GND > | > |--|C1|---GND > | > 12v->n*12v converter-- > > X1 is a contactor, C1 is a capacitor bank (20mF or so) > > Part 3 is a question as to what would be required to design and build a > solenoid that could do everything we need. I sold my physics book so I > haven't had a chance to refresh myself on the physics of solenoids yet. > > Thanks for any ideas everyone. > > > -- > Martin K > http://wwia.org/sgroup/biofuel/ > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist