> Hi there everyone > I'm working on an electronic shifting system for a Formula SAE car I am very likely going to look at implementing a "tiptronic" gear shifting system in a car. I have no firm methods in mind at present. Some systems definitely use solenoid actuation. One disadvantage of solenoids is the very variable force variation as air gap changes with minimum force at maximum gap at a point when you'd often like more force. It's certain that solenoids can be made to do the job (as they are used already in some systems). Googling on "solenoid design" may help. This may be a useful *start* http://www.mhhe.com/engcs/electrical/cathey/matlab/ch3/soldes.m Note that detailed design depends on the specifics of your arrangement (magnetic path details at each stage of the activation proves.) This may help but it's not complete http://www.cliftronics.com/design_guide.html An alternative, with its own problems, is pneumatic or hydraulic control - Ferrari use the latter AFAIK on their manual gearbox sequential shifter systems. Small pneumatic cylinders can have high and consistent force and be controlled with electrically operated valves. Providing an air source may be annoying. An electric motor solution MAY be quick enough and would provide ease of force multiplication with a gearbox, at the expense of speed. > The other idea I was looking into was using a solenoid originally > designed for a lower force, but feeding it a much higher initial > current to get it moving faster, giving it more momentum for the > portion of the stroke that would require a stronger force. Definitely helps. Using lower voltage solenoids on 12v and deriving a low voltage rail for hold in my be easier than producing a higher voltage for fast activation. RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist