Speaking of historic machines, anyone read "Soul of a New Machine?" (http://isbn.nu/0316491977). As I recall, it was about the development of a new machine at Data General (?) without management approval. It went on to become a best seller. Harold -- FCC Rules Updated Daily at http://www.hallikainen.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist