Russell McMahon wrote: > I disagree. If you present me with a wire pair with differential > signalling on it it is possible to extract the digital signal with no > other reference. There can be some issues over "DC restoration" but > at every moment the relative polarity of the wires, and thus the > intended signalling state, is clearly measurable. (Crossovers of > course occur between symbols.) Yes, but this doesn't work so well for transmitting RS485 since the common mode range of a complient receiver need not be that large. > An example of such a system is a telephone where the speech signal > (here analog) is not essentially ground referenced. And 10base-T ethernet where the both ends are transformer coupled and the common mode voltage of the twisted pair is irrelevant over a wide range. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist