> Whilst I agree that these fats are probably not healthy, I think we > should remind ourselves that this is the same Food and Drug > Administration that has declared Aspartame as safe for human > consumption, even though exhaustive testing has shown it breaks down > into serious neurotoxins, and in fact caused tumours and siezures in > the > animals it was originaly tested on. Damned if they do, damned if they don't :-) I've read or skimmed numerous Aspartame papers and I'm in a "don't know" position on it. I think there is scant really good information available on the worst of its claimed affects on humans. Bear in mind that to SOME people (phenyl ketoneurics) it is undoubtedly the deadliest of poisons for genetic reasons. I'm less than confident about its general safety, and I HATE the taste, but I'm uncertain that it's really as bad as many claim. I'd be entirely happy for anyone to point me at better information that demonstrates it's bad effects. Bad information that "demonstrates" this I already have :-). It's interesting to note that people attempting to induce ketosis (high protein, high fat, about zero carbohydrate "Atkins" type diet) generally have more difficulty achieving ketosis when taking aspartame. I find it almost impossible to achieve ketosis with more than a trace of carbohydrate intake and it SEEMS aspartame makes it worse, but I don't have a controlled enough record to make this certain.) Trans fats have been on the naughty-naughty list for a long time now. The FDA is finally catching up with this. That the manufacturers are spending so much time on trying to find replacements suggests that someone has convinced them that the cause is lost, for whatever reason. RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist