> Just out of interest, be aware of one of the common misconceptions > about > RS485. Although many refer to it as a "2 wire" this is misleading. > The data > signals are relative to GND, and all nodes must share a common GND. > It is > not (in it's standard configuration) an isolated bus. You may cvery well be correct BUT I can';t see why gnd is needed for signalling purposes. As long as wires signal differentially at the standard levels ground potential would not matter for signalling purposes. Certainly if devices had limited common mode voltage capability and if ICs were used which did'nt like eg 230 VAC to ground, then you could get problems if you applied 230VAC common mode to both leads ;-) > I have actually seen an RS485 network with all devices isolated from > GND > and using just a single twisted pair. By some strange quirk it > appeared to > "mostly work", "most" of the time, although it suffered many 485 > chip failures. Makes sense. If you had a floating bearer it could assume any voltage relative to ground. If it did and a device connected cared about voltage to ground then failures could occur. RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist