> And an opinion piece by the editor of Silicon Chip > "Compact fluorescent lights are not economic" > > http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_102164/article.html That was written in 2004. I'm surprised. He's wrong. Or, at least, my overwhelming experience of CFLs is quite different from his. I can categorically state that I have had some versions last well over the rated 8000 hours as I have a lamp my electrical workshop and another in my front path light that are always on, and the bulbs last typically well over a year. I write the date that I put CFL bulbs into service on their base. I have had some fail long before expected, but overall the results are acceptable, if not as good as some claim. Given the current low cost of CFLs and the substantial savings in energy use, it doesn't take long to justify their cost on energy savings alone. Note that CFLs save money on energy ONLY if you do not have thermostat controlled heating. Any time you use a thermostatically controlled heater energy sources such as light bulbs contribute to the heating and reduce heating power costs proportionately. Simple example of savings. Compare an incandescent 100W bulb and a 25W CFL. (usually 20W are sold as 100w replacements but they don't quite meet 100W equivalent light output so lets be fair). Electricity costs about $NZ1 per watt per years continuous operation. That varies with area, and the price is rising, but it's an OK approximation. If an IB (incandescent bulb) and CFL are assumed to cost equal amounts of capital per hour run then power savings are all that needs to be compared. Even factoring in bulb costs does not make much difference. Energy savings per year run 24/7 are 100-25 = $75 per year. Run a bulb 10% of the time = 2.4 hours per day and the saving is $7.50. As CFL bulbs now often cost under $3 and IBs are down to say $0.50 there MAY be a slight extra bulb cost for the CFLs. But its far less than $7.50/year. I run an often or always on CFL in several locations. Front porch, path light, workshop. There are a few other areas where they are often on. At $1/year/watt and with a small wattage CFL the costs are acceptable. I would not consider doing this with IBs. I just went and checked the ALWAYS on front path light. It was installed on 22 September 2003. That's about 11.700 continuous running hours so far. It's an 8 watt bulb so running costs so far are about $11. ($11.22 at 12 cents per unit.) My workshop bulb was installed in 15 October 2003 after having been moved there from some other (unspecified) location so total hours are unknown but at least as long as the path light. . A significant failure mode is mechanical damage due to careless handling. It's far easier to crack the bulb seal on a CFL than on an IB. Due care is required, There are few places where I would recommend an IB these days. RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist