That is true, I ordered a similar socket from them and it is a counterfeit. Although it is an Australian Company they ship from Thailand. Their prices are okay but shipping charges are good. Initially they used to ship chips in Styrofoam pieces!!! I had to convince them that Styrofoam is highly static !!!. My 2 cents... > I could swear that this one : > http://www.futurlec.com/Sockets/ZIFU40.shtml > is the same as those that I have a box of, and that has > been verified by 3M as counterfeit. From the picture it has > exactly the same design, including the area in the middle for > the (3M) part number (following the the 3M numbering scheme, > "nnn-nnnn", but with a number that never have been use on *any* > true 3M part). They are definitly made to *look* as a real 3M parts. -- Chetan Bhargava www.bhargavaz.net -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist