> I'm not sure why dip-clips and/or just jumpers aren't more popular. > Perhaps they're more expensive than ZIF sockets :-( DIP clips are in the same price leauge as ZIFs, but much easier to use. You can have 10 projects running, clipping the DIP clip on the one that needs reprogramming. But you need separate clips for at least small and wide chips. I have separate clips for 40, 28, 18 and 8-pin chips. The 8-pin can also be used for 14-pin (or was it the other way round?). Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist