> You can get plastic holders for them - a sort-of > framework round the outside, with a belt-clip on the > back. That would strengthen it a lot (sorry, I can't > remember where to get them). > > However, if he keeps it with his credit-cards, I'd have > thought it was pretty safe. The problem arose when he put it on a belt clip (the kind which resembles climbing gear but has a warning about supporting a human's weight with it), then clipped it to his belt. He had no such reinforcement around it, and when he sat down it hit the seat and tried to go "up", but couldn't, and SNAP! Incidentally, to the less tech saavy observer, storing the cards in a wallet can be quite confusing. During a thunderstorm a few months ago, my wife, my mother, our pets and I took shelter in my office (we live very close at hand and a tornado was imminent). My mom went to the bathroom and upon returning was very confused as to why my wagging my butt at the wall opened the door but when she did it, it had no effect. Mike H. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist