Don't think I've seen it mentioned here before - Microchip have reduced ICE2000 from $1500 to $1000, and until the end of Feb, processor modules are down from $445 to $299 Info at http://buy.microchip.com/ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist