I have a fancy new toy, a Neuros 2 audio player. It has a built-in FM radio transmitter, and a jack on the package which is tied to the transmitter. If I observe the signal on that jack, I see ~ 20 mVp-p signal. I'd like to find a fairly small design for an antenna that'll do a good job turning the now-pathetic range (<<3 meters, in most cases) to a bit better, perhaps as much as 5-10 meters in line-of-sight conditions. Any suggestions for this? Most antenna designs I'm finding are NOT for this type of application; they are intended for hams or pirates and are usually quite bulky. No one has as yet tackled this on the Neuros 2; the original Neuros has been hacked to do crazy things with RF, but it appears it has changed quite a bit internally. My most recent attempt was a piece of coax with a 1/4 wavelength (@100 MHz) copper rod at the end. Seems to do more than nothing, but still not a lot. BTW, anyone in the market for an audio player should check this product out. While they seem to be having some quality issues, they are tops about replacing and repairing under warranty, and the other features generally outweigh the problems. Built-in FM transmit/receive, USB 2.0, up to 80 GB of storage. Best of all, the schematics, database format and client info are freely available on the web. Firmware was, and probably will be yet again. Lots of room for people like those on this list to play with! http://www.neurosaudio.com Mike H. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist