>> > only by pressing a button to turn on. The circuit I posted does that. And allows the PIC to hold itself on and then turn itself off when desired. Off current drain is essentially zero. ______________________ The following Microchip circuit > See http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/40040b.pdf > Page 14, "TIP #11 VDD Self Starting Circuit". Is clever BUT will only work for circuits where the Vbattery is not much more than Vdd. This is because the voltage doubler from the clock must provide enough voltage to hold on the NFET. To do this the gate must be above battery voltage by Vth (Vthreshhold) for the FET. Vth ranges from about 1 to 6 volts depending on FET. For Vdd= 5v then Vdoubler is about 8 volts so Vbattery can only be about 6 or 7 volts. This principle COULD be extended to work with larger battery voltages but will probably need more components. A similar arrangement with a PFET where the capacitively coupled clock signal pulls the gate negatively towards ground would work with any battery voltage. RM -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist