I've seem some discussions on bootloaders and something about a device that would simply allow a field upgrade to an existing device...I think. Seems to me, that you could stream out the hex file with a device, that provided the Vpp to actually do a field update. Simply send it out to the customer, they reload and send the unit back. I'm sure they exist....I'd like to see one for an 16F877, but again, its the programming algorithim that changes from chip to chip. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist