I said > NIST REPORT - Stability study of Optical Discs - a study of error > rates in harsh conditions. > http://www.itl.nist.gov/div895/gipwg/StabilityStudy.pdf etc Comment below is from a friend with substantial experience in electronics etc. RM ___________________________________ I agree with essentially everything you say except (the implication that) it should be possible to identify a CDR manufacturer/product which is better than most and hence likely to provide longevity. While this may be possible, there is no guarantee that one CDR of a given type will perform identically to one that is ostensibly identical but purchased at a different time/place. We have found that Kodak CDR's from different batches performed quite differently as far as relibaility on initial writing is concerned, and that some batches were readable in a given CDROM drive while others (written in the same drive at the same speed etc.) were not. My gut feeling is that CDR (and it's descendents) is not a technology that can be relied on for long-term archival of critical data. Unfortunately there probably isn't an technology which combines sufficient capacity with adequate longevity, and as far as I (and others) can see it is very likley that the end of the 20th century will be noted as a point at which important historical information began to "evaporate". Not all of this can be blamed on flaky media of course - there is also the issue of a proliferation of media with short technology lifetimes, the amount of transitory information which is deemed to have no longer-term value (i.e much e-mail correspondence), and information which only ever exists on-screen as a result of dynamic content generators (database-driven applications, etc.). As a case in point, I can read the classified ad's in a 1900-vintage copy of the Herald, but I doubt anyone in 100 years time will be able to see what people were buying/selling on Trademe (and at what prices). Regards, Ken Mardle -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist