> Now what really annoys me is the huge effort and expense into > "saving lives" on the road but Which scarcely seems to make a difference. Some years the road toll goes up. You could ask what would happen if the authorities did nothing ........... actual nothing that is, not the perceived nothing that someone who's just copped a +5kph speeding ticket thinks they're doing -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist