>Anyway, we experimented with different matrix sizes and discovered that a >5x7 matrix seemed >to fit all letters (upper case only) pretty well so that's what we used. It also allows you to do a reasonable representation of most lower case, and sort of allows descenders on g, j, p, q and y, enough to make them discernable for what they should be. To get properly decent looking characters you need a 9x7 matrix for proper descenders, and Motorola used to make a very nice ROM which had a 9x7 matrix mapped into a 9x16 space, giving excellent descenders, without requiring the full 9x16 space in the rom, it required a 9x7 plus 1 bit per char to signify it was shifted for the descender. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist