Hi Russel, May be a bit late in the day... You could also try Russian manufacturers of TEMs: http://www.kryothermusa.com and IIRC http://www.kryotherm.ru They also have a free design software on their site. I haven't explored the software much, it helps in TEM design for their more common use - pass current to generate heat, reverse current direction to remove heat. Regards, Mohit. > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu > [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Russell McMahon > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 3:40 AM > To: PIC List > Subject: [EE] Free design software - Peltier cooler / heater > /thermoelectricgenerator > > > Melcor - Free Peltier design software plus good site covering their > products. > Registration required - very worthwhile design package. 3.2 MB > download. > > Thermoelectric power generation calculation was what I was interested > in and this is the first calculator for this that I have found. > > Software download > > http://www.melcor.com/software.html > > Home page > > http://www.melcor.com/ > > This software demonstrates the practicality of using Peltier devices > as power generators for electronic projects. > eg a 1 watt requirement at 5 volts could be met with 175 > watts thermal > input, 30C air temperature and 0.3 C/W heatsink. > Improving heatsink to 1C/W reduces power in to 125 thermal watts. > > > > RM > > _________________ > > For Thermoelectric Power generation (TMG) maintaining an adequate low > side temperature will be a challenge. Heatsinks from 0.1 to 0.01 > C/Watt may be required depending on power loads or required > efficiencies. Realistically the lower end of these would need to be > achieved with "heat pipe" technology. Thermal to electrical > efficiencies of around 5% are achievable with a 200c hot side and 30c > cold side. Temperatures above 200C not recommended. At eg > laptop loads > of around 25 watts and 5% efficiency thermal input is about > 500 watts. > A 0.1C/w heatsink would have a 50c temperature drop - obviously not > nice for efficiency. > > A worked example from their calculator gives > For Thot = 200C, Tcold sink = 30C, Cold sink = 0.1 C/W > 15V, 1.5A nominal requirement. > > 15.16V, 1.52A = 23 watts out. > 590 watts in thermal > 3.9% efficiency > Tcold junction = 87C !!! (due to heatsink drop) > Carnot efficiency of actual Peltier = (200-87)/(273+200) = 23.9% so > 3.9% is 16% of Carnot. > Solutions using 10, 12 15 & 18 of their Peltier devices in various > series/parallel combinations are given. > > _________ > > Dropping heatsink thermal resistance to an (almost impossible) 0.01 > C/W gives almost 7% efficiency and 350W in. > > ____________ > > Using 0.1 C/W and -30C cold heatsink gives 16 to 18 % efficiency > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclis> t > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist