These problems with wet electrolytes should be a signal to anybody designing for reliability: avoid wet electrolyte caps unless a limited llifetime is a workable solution. I try my best to use Tantalum caps, even though the cost is twice as much. I have a client that uses a 3300uF @ 35VDC radial used as a filter for a 24VDC power supply in a robot the does pipeline inspection. These caps have to be replaced every 2 years and sometimes more often, as the environment gets hot (70C). Of course there is no alternative. There is one possible alternative- seal (pot) the wet cap. That prevents the electrolyte from leaking but will also prevent it from venting safely in the event of a failure. But this seems to work OK for small caps used for audio purposes. You can also seal the venting end with two coats of fingernail polish, which adds a touch of class to an otherwise drab PCB... --Bob Russell McMahon wrote: >>> Aluminium electrolytics should be run near their rated voltage so 25v >>> is fine. >> > >> Interesting, could you elaborate? > > >> I guess it has to do with formation/maintenance of the dielectric, >> right? Just >> wondering how much of a problem this really is, and what >> consideration to >> give to it in a design. > > > An aluminium "wet" electrolytic needs some potential to maintain > formation of its plates. At elevated temperatures such a cap will die > in far less than its rated lifetime if stored with no voltage applied. > ie although a cap may have a 2000 hour rated lifetime the actual > lifetime is usually far longer as it is run at lower than specified > temperature. but STORE the cap at 85C with no power applied and it > will last rather less than 3 months as it will dry out! > > I imagine how much voltage is needed to maintain formation depends on > design and maufacturer's skill and experience. It may well be that 5v > is enough for a 35v cap. But possibly you could expect a reduced > lifetime. > > The matter is not at all clear. Some web sources sugfgest lifetime > INCREASESt lower voltages. > > > RM > -- Note: To protect our network, attachments must be sent to attach@engineer.cotse.net . 1-866-263-5745 Tollfree -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist