(Topic changed) Jinx, On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:40:15 +1300, Jinx wrote: >...< > Silicon Chip is slowly replacing the F84 with the F628A, but > it's disappointing to see that so many of their micro projects > are now based on some damned thing called a PICAXE >=20 > http://www.picaxe.co.uk/ >=20 > which I believe holds BASIC-like commands in EEPROM > and AFAIK leaves the Flash unused I don't know the details of how they do so, but as I understand it they a= re a sort-of cheap answer to the=20 BASIC Stamp - a range of 8 to 40 pin PICs with BASIC built in. And how m= uch cheaper! Their -28X model is=20 possibly an 18F252, and is less than a fiver including a ceramic resonato= r. Compare that with a BASIC Stamp=20 2SX which seems to have about the same capabilities, at about =A340... =20 > I think most of us are quite distant to the F84 / PICAXE > market but somebody must be making a quid out of it.=20 Indeed, but that's probably all they do make on selling one :-) Built-i= n BASIC is, as you say, not really=20 the market we're in here, but for people who want an easy way into embedd= ed programming, it's probably the=20 best mix of ease of use and cost. I believe they are really aiming at sc= hool projects - if I was going to=20 build a line-follower, I may well buy their stuff! :-) > I find now that the first thing I do (after rolling my eyes finding > it's yet another PICAXE job) with any SC project that takes > my fancy is to have a think about how long it would take me > to write it in proper code and then not bother I've never seen Silicon Chip magazine so I can't comment. "Everyday Prac= tical Electronics" (EPE) magazine=20 does the occasional PICaxe project, but many more PIC projects (at least= one each month). =20 Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist