I get this so seldom, I can't remember what the cause is. Its NOT in programming mode, PGD & PGC are unused, The config word is enabling the debug mode, etc etc. The chip is PIC16F876A . Anybody remember what the issue is? --Bob -- Note: To protect our network, attachments must be sent to attach@engineer.cotse.net . 1-866-263-5745 Tollfree -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist