For completeness sake I've tried an inverse display too http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/led+lcd.html They're a little uncommon. Had a few lying around for ages and not used them yet. Generally thought them too dark and sinister- looking but backlighting is an improvement and they don't look quite so Goth. Subtle and unobtrusive (some might say furtive) compared to standard LCDs -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist